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The complicated world of online misinformation and disinformation

Wednesday 30 September 2020
In episode three of Conversations That Count - Ng膩 K艒rero Whai Take, our guests Professor Richard Shaw and Jess Brenton-Shaw dive into this complicated issue.
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Simply recognising that there鈥檚 an issue isn鈥檛 enough to solve it. Our guests discuss different approaches to navigating misinformation.

Last updated: Friday 1 April 2022

In some ways, the large-scale wave of disinformation which has swamped New Zealand鈥檚 streets and social feeds throughout 2020 comes without surprise. Faced with a catastrophic global pandemic and a commensurately wide-ranging response from our central government, it鈥檚 to a degree understandable that members of the public 鈥 particularly those predisposed to distrust either the parties in power or the system in toto 鈥撀爓ould seek alternative explanations for the realities we鈥檙e facing. And for those who鈥檝e been looking, such theories have been unfortunately easy to come by.聽

But although the modern media environment has made it undeniably far easier for bad actors to spread bad info, did this problem really start on our social feeds? And regardless of where it originated, how can we collectively address the issue now that it鈥檚 taken hold? These are just two of the vital questions posed in the third edition of Conversations that Count 鈥 Ng膩 K艒rero Whai Take, available now on your podcast platform of choice.

Produced in partnership with and hosted by experienced broadcaster Stacey Morrison, this episode sees 暴风资源 Professor Richard Shaw joined by academic researcher and science communication specialist Dr Jess Berentson-Shaw, for a k艒rero that spans everything from the surprising history of disinformation in Aotearoa to how we as individuals can act in stopping its spread 鈥撀燼s well as what we should be asking of our elected officials to achieve the same.

Dr Berentson-Shaw is well versed in the causes and conditions that give rise to what she terms 鈥渇alse information鈥, and believes that it鈥檚 important to delineate between the various forms that it can take 鈥 as well as the motivations of those behind its creation and distribution.

鈥淲e know that what we call 鈥榙isinformation鈥 tends to be made by people with malicious intent ... people who create it in order to gain something from it 鈥 power, money, wealth, political influence. Misinformation tends to be false information that鈥檚 spread by people who don鈥檛 have malicious intent. In fact, often people might be spreading it because they鈥檙e concerned or they鈥檙e worried or there鈥檚 actually genuine care at the heart of it.

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Host Stacey Morrison is joined by guests Professor Richard Shaw and academic researchers and science communication specialist Dr Jess Berenston-Shaw.

That distinction, between those wilfully seeding malinformation as a means to disrupt and those who genuinely believe they鈥檙e doing the right thing, is one which has become only more meaningful this year. In a conducted by Stuff and 暴风资源 earlier this year, respondents who consumed the bulk of their news either via social media or word of mouth (as opposed to mainstream media sources) were more than five times more likely to believe that the COVID-19 virus was an intentionally created bioweapon. Perhaps even more alarmingly, members of those groups were more than ten times more likely to believe that the virus was 鈥榓n invention of shadowy forces that want to control us鈥.

But while those numbers clearly reflect the essentially unchecked influence of social media, and the resultant potential for harm which it presents, to place the blame entirely at the feet of fringe groups and individuals on the internet is to grossly oversimplify the issue. In a piece about a Singaporean state action against 鈥榝ake news鈥, produced last for the Asia Media Centre, Massey Dean鈥檚 Chair Professor Mohan Dutta that in some international cases, 鈥渢he impact of digital hate is more pronounced because it is sponsored by the state鈥.聽

By a similar token, Professor Shaw 鈥撀燿irector of Massey鈥檚 Bachelor of Arts program and a professor in the university鈥檚 politics faculty 鈥 is quick to point out that the genesis of the false information phenomenon and its use by those in power comfortably predates the advent of contemporary communication tools.

鈥淚f anybody鈥檚 read anything about the events that led to the invasion of Parihaka on the 5th of November 1881, look at the activities of John [Bryce] who was the native minister at the time. The case, and the narrative that was constructed around the use of violence and the P膩hua up there, that鈥檚 a really beautiful case study 鈥撀燼nd I use the word 鈥榖eautiful鈥 advisedly 鈥撀爄n the construction of a deliberately disinformed story to justify a state action. This stuff has been with us for a considerably long time.鈥

Where to from here?

Of course, with an issue as pressing and existential as this one, simply recognising that there鈥檚 an issue isn鈥檛 enough to solve it 鈥撀燼nd as both guests acknowledge, expecting everyday media consumers to be able to apply academic rigour to every news source they encounter probably isn鈥檛 realistic. As Morrison succinctly puts it, 鈥淲e鈥檙e going to need our to be able to critically analyse a 15-second TikTok, and to be able to have the dexterity of thought to ask 鈥業s this true? Can I cross-check that?鈥欌

For Berentson-Shaw, the first step towards achieving that goal is to increase the population鈥檚 general information literacy, and to improve our collective ability to weigh up the validity and veracity of our sources.

鈥淚 do think there needs to be some sort of switch in the way that we think about teaching critical thinking, and that it needs to start earlier than it currently does. It has to be grounded in an understanding that there鈥檚 a huge amount of false information that鈥檚 currently created.鈥

Crucially, both our guests and Morrison alike agree that it鈥檚 important to ensure our efforts to correct the cycle of false information don鈥檛 unintentionally serve the opposite purpose; entrenching bad facts, habits and attitudes through an overly hostile approach. While Professor Shaw acknowledges that there are some views and opinions which are in his opinion 鈥渟o repugnant and so violent...that there is a case for deplatforming鈥 those people responsible for their dissemination, in the vast majority of cases he believes a more gentle approach is generally a better one.

鈥淲hat you don鈥檛 do is disparage them, you don鈥檛 call them names, you don鈥檛 dismiss them 鈥 because that鈥檚 a sure-fire way of driving them further into the rabbit hole. So maybe what you also do is you hold your peace and you listen, and you have conversations with others.鈥

Listen to the podcast

What motivates misinformation? In the third episode of Conversations That Count 鈥撀燦g膩 K艒rero Whai Take, we attempt to find out. via iTunes, Spotify or your preferred podcast platform.